I swear it's like being in a Monty Python sketch:
Feb 06, 201312:17PM
"No one wants to take your guns away."
"They just said they want to take away guns."
"Well, yes, but only certain, supermodern, ultrapowerful guns."
"This gun is half the power of a hunting rifle."
"Yes, that makes it more dangerous, because of less kickback. And stuff."
"It was designed in the 1950s."
"Well, technically, yes. But it got a new plastic thingy last year. So it's ultramodern."
"The plastic thingy is an adjustable stock for different clothing or shooter statures. It's been around since the 1960s."
"Right. But we just found out about it."
"And they want to ban this gun."
"It looks scary."
"So if it didn't look scary, it would be okay? Like this pink gun?"
"Yes. Well, no. Now it looks like a toy."
"So it can't look scary, and it can’t look non-scary?"
"So which guns would that leave?"
"Well, the other non-scary, non-non-scary guns."
"But all guns scare you."
"Yes, but I have a right to feel safe, after all."
"Really? What about my right to feel safe?"
"Well, you're paranoid, so you don't count."
"So you ARE taking away guns."
"You just said you were."
"I said I was not."
"But you just took my gun!"
"No I didn't!"
"Yes you did. I don't have it anymore. You have it."
"Oh, this. Right. Well, it's not a non-scary gun, nor a non-non-scary gun, nor a hunting gun—"
"I hunt with that."
"No you don't."
"Yes, I do."
"Well, we think you should hunt with something else."
"Look, the Founders weren't concerned about deer uprisings, they were concerned about despots and people taking their guns."
"No they weren't."
"Yes they were. That's what they specifically said you can't take our guns."
"No they didn't."
"They said you couldn't take THEIR guns. YOUR guns are entirely different."
"Because they're…new. And scary."
"So give it back."
"No. I don't feel like it."
"But you said you weren't going to take our guns."
"Oh, that. Right. Well…oh, good, here comes an inaccurate cartoon making fun of you. We win."
"The bloody hell you do." BANG
Helping Gun Control Supporters Through The Five Stages of Grief
Jan 31, 201301:25PM
Denial: THERE IS NO RIGHT TO OWN A GUN! That's not what the Second Amendment means!
Actually, there is. That is what the Second Amendment means, and the Supreme Court has said so repeatedly for well over a century, until they broke it down into words even you can understand:
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."."
There. Moving on:
Anger: You all support child murderers, hate America, are retarded poopyheads, living in a delusional world…
Boy, that was…special. I understand you're upset. However, name calling is not productive, and hate is not a liberal value. It's also generally understood to be a bad thing to stereotype an entire group by the actions of a mere handful.
Bargaining: What about some reasonable compromise? If you disagree with us, you're unreasonable!
That's not how it works. A reasonable compromise requires that you know the subject in question, not just bleat about being scared, and that you offer something in return. What are you offering in return?
Oh, I just remembered: Constitutional right. I don't have to bargain.
Depression: I hate America. All you gun nuts should go to some other country like Somalia.
Really? I'm an immigrant and I LOVE America. But if you're not happy with it, perhaps you should do the moving. Why am I obligated to make changes for your benefit? I moved to the country I like. You can do the same.
Yeah, will you please hurry up and get there so we can do something productive? We've spent a lot of time helping you with this process, and fighting it is only making you unhappy, and frustrating us. Please?
http://io9.com/5840415/why-a-little-self+delusion-can-be-a-very-good-thing A bit of excerpt:
In general, the more aware of reality you are, the more likely you are to survive. But sometimes lying to yourself has its advantages. Possessing an over-inflated belief in yourself can help you perform better than accurately knowing your abilities.
That said, they suggest that overconfidence works particularly well in unfamiliar situations, where it's difficult to even make an accurate assessment of one's position. Faced with an unknown enemy or technology, the best course may be to simply assume that you can win until proven wrong. In that scenario, it might make some sense why overconfidence is an desirable trait from an evolutionary perspective, particularly since so much of human history seems dominated by exploring unfamiliar and potentially dangerous situations. Very well.
So then we come to this comment: jinchoung
14 Sep 2011 6:18 PM "why did you say you could fly the plane?!"
"i just assumed i could."
it's one thing to say that there are situations where delusions of grandeur can help STATISTICALLY SPEAKING - OVER TIME - FOR A BIOLOGICAL SPECIES...
but in everyday, real life existence for a single human being, while confidence can have a psycho/sociological effect that can manipulate the weak of mind - VERY * SERIOUS * REAL WORLD * NEGATIVES are the primary consequences of such delusion.
it is because of this phenomenon that people all over our country have an opinion on global warming.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
local yokel yahoos who don't know their asshole from a hole in the ground HAVE AN OPINION ON CLIMATE CHANGE - A VERY TECHNICAL SUBJECT MATTER which this group of opiners can ONLY get SECOND HAND from scientists.
further, these imbeciles have such a hopped up sense of self that they are confident:
- TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE ****ARGUING**** with the scientist from whence this information comes!
- to the point where JENNY MOTHERFUCKING MCCARTNEY thinks she has something to contribute to the field of childhood vaccinations.
Wait, wasn't this about climate change?
- where a bunch of backwoods fucktards call themselves a teabagging express are convinced that a nation... A NATION... should be run like their own households - with NO HINT of irony or grasp of the fallacies of such a notion.
Wait, wasn't this about immunizations?
as for novel, unique situations in which we need to go in blind... how many such situations exist in this day and age?
perhaps cocksure boldness works better than timidity when completely ignorant but what works better than that is simply not to be ignorant.
fucking google it.
um...ignorance? I can google it?
i'm actually going to disagree with the gist of this article
Wait, are you an expert in this field? or getting your information from an expert? Or are you, you know, arguing with experts? Which would be ironic.
and say that this is on par with "studies" that say chocolate or red wine is healthful... in a very particular way of looking, yes, that can be so... but it also must ignore huge swathes of other complicating factors that frustrate such easy generalizations.
DELUSION IS BAD. FALSEHOODS ARE BAD.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY! TRUTH IS BEAUTY!
TRUTH IS GOOD. KNOWING REALITY IS GOOD. period.
it is with UTTER, GRAVE, MORTAL PERIL that we do not understand and grasp our ineptitude.
Oh, I'm pretty sure I grasp it when I see it.
we JACK UP OUR WORLD because we overestimate our own prowess and come off as utter DOUCHEBAGS - to ourselves, our friends and family and to the societies in which we belong.
Well, maybe you do...
as clint eastwood said, "A MAN'S GOTTA KNOW HIS LIMITATION".
that mouthbreathing, overweight chess nerd is not going to get the cheerleader... no matter how bold.
you can find the way if you don't even know where you currently are.
Deep, man. You should send that to Reader's Digest.
There's more. Much more. I must applaud this gentleman on a fantastic first-person demonstration of self-delusion. He couldn't do better if he were actually self-deluded.
Aug 23, 201109:03PM
(8:54:07 PM) EvlPenguin: hmm, interesting question. if the US military had a time traveling military unit, what service would it belong to?
(8:55:07 PM) OnyxHawke: you'd want the airstrip for getting the Delorean up to 88mph
(8:56:16 PM) mzmadmike: yeah, AF takes everything tech, and I'll explain why:
(8:56:44 PM) mzmadmike: The Navy has to assign everything to "Surface" or "Sub." Surface wouldn't know how to deal with it, and would never let sub have it.
(8:56:52 PM) OnyxHawke: because they can convince people they pay $5000 for toilet seats.
(8:56:55 PM) Monika: we're smart enough to A/C the comps?
(8:56:58 PM) mzmadmike: The Marines wouldn't know where Mickey's hand was.
(8:57:38 PM) mzmadmike: And the Army can manage to take brilliantly designed rifles and trucks and destroy them. They'd try to fix a time machine with a hammer.
How Conspiracy Theories Start
May 02, 201101:18PM
"Okay, Mr President. We have your long form birth certificate, but there's a problem."
"It's faded, sir. Badly. It'll show with forensics exams, but scans are almost invisible."
"Well, we all know it's legit."
"Of COURSE we do, sir." wink.
"No, no, it's legit. My father paid a lot of money to have that and my birth announcement made up, in case I ever ran for president and needed them. They're as legit as Kerry's purple hearts."
"What I mean is, can you just clean up the scan?"
"I'm sure that's not a problem, sir."
"Dammit, Carney (why do you have that name?), someone did a crappy job in Photoshop. Even people who weren't against me are questioning it. What are these 'artifacts' they talk about?"
"I don't know, sir. We hired some college kid."
"Computers, Carney. You hire high school kids for that kind of work. How can we fix this?"
"I've got it, sir."
"We'll announce that 0sama bin Laden is dead. Then we'll say he was buried at sea. No need to document the body. That way, we draw attention back away from the birther issue, we can create the 'deather' issue, so your opposition looks even more loony."
"That's good. When should we do it?"
"Well, sir, if you wait until tonight at just after 9, we can pre-empt Trump's show and make him look like an impotent dweeb as well."
"Excellent. Do it."
And a most awesome demotivator.