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RIP Butch
Nov 11, 201901:22AM

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I only knew Butch by his first time.† He was a regular dealer here at the Indy 1500 Gun and Knife show. He looked 65 when I met him in 1995. He looked 65 in June of this year. He was in hospice for the August show, and the cancer reached his brain and killed him in September.

Butch sold gun parts, and knew every part of every gun ever made. You'd hold up a gun.† "I need this."

He'd say, "Middle screw for the sideplate of a Smith Model 57." Turn around, open an old wooden drawer on his rack, and pull one out.††

You'd hold up a piece you found and ask, "What is this?"

"That's the fore end latch spring for a Stevens Model 94. From the bend, I'm guessing it was 20 gauge."

There's at least a dozen guns here that work because he had parts I needed, and a half dozen shotguns I put together from stripped receivers and parts from his tables.

RIP, Butch. You can never be replaced.

His daughter has taken over the business. I hope she's as successful as he was.

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July 9, 2019
This turned out to be just a collection of short stories & rants. I briefly scanned the story titles and the first one I read dealt with the M1 Garand rifle, which Williamson considers junk -- he loves AR's, which I consider junk. So far just a difference of opinion BUT: My bullshit meter hit max when MZ claimed that the sights on an M1 only go out to 460 yards. Now that's just a lie, he knows better. As a Marine officer I shot quite a bit of military rifle competition back in the early 1970's, with both the M1 Garand in 30.06 and the M-14 in 7.62, using the mil-spec standard iron sights. The course used was a national match course fired at 200, 300, and 600 METERS. That's 660 yards for the math-challenged Williamson. Both match-conditioned rifles shot quite accurately at that range and I would not have hesitated to fire the M1 on the 1000-yard range. Silly rants are OK but don't lie to support a questionable case.

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First, there is a difference between a "lie" and an "Error."

Second, per FM 23-5, the stated maximum effective range is given as 500 yards. Now, what I saw was 460 METERS, but in publications using both Imperial and Metric. I transposed. BFD. AND, the newer M16s exceed that range.

Also, just because a weapon is mechanically limited to a given range, does not mean it's impossible to shoot further. It's entirely possible. It's just that accuracy lacks.

The M1 was accepted for service at 3 MOA accuracy. That's 18" at 600 yards plus wind drift, plus rotation of the earth (And yes, that is a factor). Then, flight time is approximately 1 second, so sure, hitting paper at that range is doable, but inaccurate, and hitting a moving enemy...only by sheer luck.

Also, I own and shoot an original, complete, M1-D.

So it's your math that's challenged, as well as your reading comprehension. And if you're such an over-sensitive snowflake that a single questionable error removes 4 stars from the book and causes a meltdown of "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!" it doesn't speak well for Marine officers. Luckily, I'm aware you're not typical.

Also, the AR platforms have been demolishing the archaic platforms at National Match for about 30 years now. 1970 was a long time ago. About the time I was 5. Technology has advanced in a half century. Witness this computer we're using.

You should probably look up an article entitled, "The M14, Not Much For Fighting ( A Case Against The M14 Legend)"

If you're that upset about my comments on the Garand, this one will cause apoplexy. But facts remain facts.


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With a typical exchange with one, that mirrors thousands I've had:

Tony Alexander: red states are receiving assistance, not paying taxes. Moscow Mitch has 9 out of 10 of the counties that receive the most assistance in the country.
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Mike Williamson: Tony Alexander But as a good liberal, you should enjoy helping poor people with the taxes you voted for.†
If you're opposed to the government's legitimate authority to tax, maybe you should go live in Somalia.
And even her pet boy Mueller couldn't prove ANYTHING about Russia, and is in fact being countersued for the slander.
What was that about "investigated and found no wrondoing?"

:-*

They're all in favor of helping "The poor" until they're expected to pay for it from their urban petri dishes of "culture."

Dennis Mallory

Same old ignorant rhetoric from AMMO-SEXUALS!†
For them, NO efforts to control the proliferation of GUNs will be acceptable. They serve their lord and master, the NRA.†
No matter that men, women, children are being slaughtered in the streets.
Doesn't look like all those (any of those) 'good guys with guns' are stepping up to protect either!!!
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Shawn O'Loughlin
Lol! You crazy lefties with your altered perception of reality.
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Dennis Mallory
Shawn O'Loughlin but you can't dispute the comment can you?

Hard to believe there are adult human beings as DUMB as YOU!

I hope the heifer ur huggin' has at least half a brain--but NO--she hooked up with YOU.
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Sheldon Steinlauf
Dennis Mallory Nonsense.
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Michael Z. Williamson
If guns in Indiana are the cause of the problems in Shicago, why is crime lower in Indiana?

The rest of your bloody-shirt bleat is ignored. Especially the hilarious claim that the NRA does anything to stop gun control. They've endorsed every major federal gun control law in the last 80 years.
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Dennis Mallory
Sheldon Steinlauf why Sheldon? Can you dispute the FACTS? I guess not - - therefore your comment is WORTHLESS!
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Eric Eslinger
Dennis Mallory remember prohibition?
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Dennis Mallory
Eric Eslinger point?
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Dennis Mallory
Eric Eslinger we're not speaking of BOOZE! FOCUS.
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Dennis Mallory
Eric Eslinger get your sorry ass back out in the woods to abuse some defenseless DEER--u have zero chance of matching wits with ME!
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Paul Bartels
Dennis Mallory†
Why don't you do a mike brown and attack a cop?
You'll get a memorial that looks like a pile of garbage
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Paul Bartels
Dennis Mallory†
With all the black babies that get murdered why could you have been one?
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Dennis Mallory
Paul Bartels I was spared to fulfill a MISSION--to confront ignorant, bigoted, racist BUTTHOLES like YOU! Now GET LOST, punk!
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Michael Z. Williamson
Dennis Mallory let's educate you again, public school grad:

Same old ignorant rhetoric from AMMO-SEXUALS! --no fact in evidence, ad hominem attack'

For them, NO efforts to control the proliferation of GUNs will be acceptable.--no fact in evidence, ad hominem attack. Also false dichotomy (either this or that, no nuance or multiple options accepted).

They serve their lord and master, the NRA. --no fact in evidence, ad hominem, boogeyman, no evidence provided that the NRA is involved in this debate, or that it opposes gun control (it doesn't. The NRA specifically ASKED for the bumpfire stock ban, for example, thus completely negating the claim).

No matter that men, women, children are being slaughtered in the streets.--"Waving the bloody shirt." No facts in evidence that changing the laws in Indiana will affect crime in Chicago. Especially since, as noted in the article you didn't read, existing gun control makes it ILLEGAL for a Chicago resident to buy a handgun in Indiana. Further, if Indiana's "weak" laws led to crime, then logically IN should have worse crime than Shicago. As it does not, logically the presence of guns is not the cause.

Doesn't look like all those (any of those) 'good guys with guns' are stepping up to protect either!!!--unsupported claim. A quick google finds this:†https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-cicero-shooting-update-20180914-story.html

So to reiterate: Everything the socialist and his friend have said is provably incorrect, is unsupported hyperbole, is logically inconsistent, is ignorant of the facts, and is emotionally-charged ad hominem.

FYI, I'm an immigrant who was educated in a church-run school, though I'm no longer religious, and a veteran.

And who are you other than someone who hopes to be a leech on society?

Also, as far as our laws in Indiana, which come from our government, last I checked, you drive on roads. Since the government provides those roads, I don't see that you have any basis for argument. If you want to live in a society without laws and roads, why don't you move to Somalia?

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Dennis Mallory
Pretty much EVERYTHING americans take for granted and benefit from, is based on Socialist Theory and implemented by Democratic Liberals -- all americans--all states. Here's a few things: social security, medicare, interstate highway system, most infrastructure (bridges, buildings, dams, tunnels etc), 40 hr work week, workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, city/county police and fire depts., public education/libraries/health.

Now shut the fuck up and consider yourself SCHOOLED! No need to thank me, I enlighten the DUMB as a hobby!
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Dennis Mallory
Sheldon Steinlauf it ewas funded by the taxpayers for the purpose of TRanSpORTATION for ALL. It was pa-d for by all for the benefit of all. It has been used for the benefit of all ever since--thats SOCIALISM.

Now get lost PUNK!
Michael Z. Williamson
Dennis Mallory Going through your drivel:

social security--pyramid scheme created by a fascist who put people in concentration camps, stole property, banned Jewish refugees, endorsed eugenic sterilization of native peoples, and ordered the US Navy to fire on German ships fighting the British, thus getting us into WWII. If that's your hero, you may as well shout "Sieg Heil!"

medicare--proof that government health care doesn't work, if you've ever used it.

interstate highway system--Eisenhower was a Republican. Its primary purpose, as others have stated, was strategic. It's also paid for by†a mix of state and federal funds. There are also a goodly number of toll roads, thus proving there are valid ways to accomplish the same thing with less government. Your claim is completely erroneous.

most infrastructure (bridges, buildings, dams, tunnels etc)

Bridges, dams and tunnels predate the existence of "socialism" by thousands of years, and became popular during the Palace Economy of the Late Bronze Age, for the purpose of bringing taxes to the Emperor, not to help the people. Your claim is ridiculous.

"Most buildings" are not built by the government. Yet another fail.

40 hr work week--created by negotiations between union and management. There is no codified "40 hour work week" in either state or federal law. Fail.

workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, -- see above.†

city/county police and fire depts--predate socialism by millennia.

public education--look how well that's worked for you. You're 0 for 13 so far.

libraries/--Benjamin Franklin invented the concept long before socialism. There are numerous private libraries in both communites and universities.

health.--the public health service does very little that can't be accomplished, and is accomplished, by consensus in the medical community.

You're 0 f0r 15.

Socialists, just like socialism, create nothing, and merely attempt to claim the product of others as their own.

Now why don't you stop wasting time on the internet and go get a second job to pay for my free health care I'm supposed to get.

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They'd be pathetically hilarious if it wasn't legal for them to vote.

Actually, sitting at my desk. Phone rings.

Me: "Hello?"

Neighbor: "Meet me out front. Bring a pistol."

Me: Grabs Glock 34, heads outside.† "What's up?"

Neighbor: "Crazy bitch just shot at one of my customers in the shop. She ran up into the woods. The police are looking."

Me: "Hold this." Hands pistol over.† Goes inside. Retrieves something more authoritative than 9mm, with more range, and shall we say, more fire control options. Goes back out.† "So next time, tell me the threat and I'll make the loadout decision."

Both: Watch the treeline while he talks to sheriff dept, who had already arrived in four minutes from his call, before he came over, with 15 officers and two drones.

Me: Calls wife who's napping. "Keep Small Person inside, just in case."

Both: Continue to watch treeline for armed, crazy woman while police report in.† Neighbor explains.† Guy came for some Jeep work. Ex wife drove up, shot at him, fled. Hilarity ensues. 5'1", 40ish, dark hair.

Cops: Report suspect in custody.

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And that, boys and girls, is why I keep a few fucking guns on hand.

I've occasionally edited or commented on WP. Usually it's to fix some grammar, add a link, minor housekeeping stuff. I've occasionally opined on a talk page about a matter.

Recently I added content on two pages, and was amazed at the retardery I had to wade through.

First was on the page for John Illsley, former bassist for Dire Straits.† I saw a message to the effect of, "Before you add instruments to a musician's page we have to discuss it and get consensus."

Um, no. He played bass and sang backup for Dire Straits. On his solo albums, articled on Wikipedia, he plays bass, guitar, and sings.† He sings and plays on his Youtube channel (And he's very good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdrvmuAeJK4 ).† The liner notes of his albums document these facts. "Consensus" is irrelevant when faced with facts.† Grow up.

Then on David Bowie's page, same message. Are you fucking kidding me?† Bowie played about 17 instruments, most of them live on stage and on film and noted in liner notes. That means he fucking played them. There's no "consensus."

This demonstrates the problem. Wikipedia is the plywood fort in the back yard where the unpopular kids go to look at each other's wangs and talk about how awesome they are.† You have to impress them, or they'll not take note of you!

And so we get to me.

Back in 2008, I argued a point on the 0bama election on that WP page. Now, ultimately, I was wrong* and the statement was corrected.† However, in response some asshole "article for deletion"ed my page, claiming I was "not notable, or his non-notable works."† He specifically stated in discussion he was doing this in revenge for daring to question the history of The One.

This was quickly shut down as "WTF are you talking about? Of course an author with a dozen books from major publishers is notable."

Some years back, I got hatemail in IM on Facebook.† Anonymous troll had already blocked me, so I have no idea who, but the gist was they were going to doxx me and get me fired (good luck, I've been self-employed since 1991. My boss is an asshole, but I understand him), and "You also have a Wikipedia page. Yeah that's gone.† It might take me a year or two, but say goodbye."

So, the threat was to remove the WP page about me, because?† Dunno. No reason given.

So Saturday night, a friend and antagonist (we disagree on several things, frequently where he's more libertarian than I am) (I am an anarchist, sort of) pings me that the WP page about me just speedy deleted.

WTF?

And apparently, someone was claiming that none of the references on the page (after 15 years and at least two attempts to delete it) were "Credible" or some such.† Apparently, the books are not considered valid as evidence of relevance, for an author page,--wait, what?† It doesn't matter how many books an author has published, that doesn't make them relevant as an author?† Really?† I guess then it doesn't matter how many races a driver has run, or how many TV shows an actor has been on.

The page was reverted and protected for discussion, but despite that, some fat troll in Sweden kept deleting content if he couldn't "verify" it from "independent sources" (Um, google, you mouthbreathing ignoranus (sic)?)

In discussion, there's even some asshole claiming Baen is a "vanity publisher," (magically distributed by Simon and Schuster).† I suggest they delete that page, too, then.

Apparently my Year's Best Military SF award was "self-awarded."† Weird. I gave myself a plaque and $500 cash?† I guess I should do that more often.

They claim they somehow can't source my Locus or Bookscan bestsellers.

And apparently, I "claim" to be a veteran. What standards do they require for proving military service or bestseller status, and do they require this of other authors?

Someone on my side even linked to an article in Stars and Stripes about veteran writers. And apparently, that's not an official source.

This has happened a lot. I remember when they were complaining that Howard Tayler, "Couldn't have more than 100,000 readers," for his comic, and therefore wasn't "notable," despite numerous awards, interviews, GoH status, etc. Are you fucking kidding me?† 100K readers is plenty big enough in this field.

They also went after Jim Rawles at Survivalblog, simultaneously insisting online references weren't good enough, and complaining that paper references from the 1980s weren't available online.

The error here is ignorance, or as the few honest people in that forum of failure call it, "WP:IDONTKNOWIT."† That YOU don't know who or what something is does not mean it is not relevant in that field and to people in that field. †One is supposed to assume good faith on an article's existence and ask for elaboration, not "speedy delete."

You see how this works? Nothing is credible unless they say it is.

And as a random aside, in the HELPDESK forum was this exchange, so you get an idea of the type of people who edit WP, usually without asking:

Am I allowed to add the following counter argument to this entry:†https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law†?
Am I allowed to add the following counter argument to this entry:†https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law†?

Counter argument:

While Goodwin appears to be coming around as documented in the above "Generalization, corollaries, usage" what Goodwin originally pretended to fail to take into account when he created Goodwin's Law is that some ideologies, like Conservatism and Nazism require innocent people be murdered for the ideology to be even be implemented - THAT, not the racism of the Conservative base, or the Nationalism that American Conservatives use as a bludgeon is what makes Conservatives' vile evil murderous pro-pollution ideology no better than the Nazis' vile evil murderous race-purifying ideology.

It doesn't matter if an ideology requires 1,000 people to be murdered, or if an ideology requires 6,000,000 be murdered - crossing the line into murdering people is what makes these two ideologies no different from each other.

Without the murder of innocent civilians, Conservatism could not be implemented:

https://news.vice.com/.../trumps-epa-knows-its-new-coal...†"Trumpís EPA Knows Its New Coal Rule Could Kill 1,400 People Per Year"

Other ideologies, like Democratic Socialism, or as it used to be called "a mixed market economy", aka Capitalism, does not require people to be murdered for those ideologies to be implemented. Even Socialism can be implemented without actually having to murder people - just incarcerate those who donít believe that private property is theft from humanity.

Conservatism requires that people be murdered or it's just another example of what the sociopaths call 'Radical Extremist Far Left Big Gubment Socialism.' ó Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuni Leml (talk ē contribs) 17:41, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Not unless you can find a WP:Reliable source that makes that claim. Dbfirs 17:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


@Kuni Leml:No. You can only add an argument like this if you have found it in a reliable source, not if you propounded it first. Please read WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Furthermore, you could only add this argument to that particular article if the source itself referred to Godwin's law. -Arch dude (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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Holy fuckballs, that's retarded.

Well, I don't need the bullshit. The deletion of the page ended my writing career, destroyed my awards, drained my bank account...

Oh, wait, no, it did nothing whatsoever. Utterly fucking irrelevant.

Which pretty much sums up the failures who've appointed themselves gatekeepers of what is "credible" or "notable."

Easy enough: go to google. There are 69,800 google hits for my name.† If only it was 70,000, they might care...

well, no. They've specifically claimed I'm all kinds of bad things for what I post. What relevance that has to notability, I'm at a loss.† I guess only certain orientations are allowed.

"It's not political! And have you seen the horrible out of context things he's posted?"

Ah, so it is political. Well, I knew that. Or at least, it's what shitheads think my politics are from out of context soundbites.†

This is like the time Mercedes Lackey got death threats, had to don body armor, and was accused at a convention of being a paranoid troublemaker for wearing body armor and refusing to be alone.

They then went Full Autism Retard on people commenting. Apparently, everyone is a "sock puppet."† One guy made an edit on a page about a small nation's military within a short time of me editing a different page about the same military! Aha! That proves collusion!

Or, it could be that we're both veterans (from different nations) and he's a writer I'm acquainted with. Duh.

What it comes down to is politics. These are largely fat, incel leftist failures (I've met a number of them), and I'm the diametric opposite.† They can hide in internet anonymity and pretend to have credentials, while denigrating my real, public ones.

The page is gone, and it's a relief. My fans shouldn't have to grovel, degrade, and humiliate themselves before a "consensus" of social failures to document that a best-selling, award-winning author with over 20 publications and 100 editions in 3 languages is more culturally relevant than a disgusting freak who was fucked to death by a horse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case††

I think I last checked in on the page in 2015.† On my list of priorities, if #1 is sex with my wife and our girlfriend, and it is, taking my daughter to the museum is about #3, writing my current contracts is #5, showering and wiping my ass is about #12, pulling out the stove to scrape the congealed grease is #57, identifying that weird tree way up the hill on the fence line is #348, and giving a shit about some page argued over by fat, angry, pompous failures is approximately #4,762,051.

The fact is, Wikipee is irrelevant, and my sales and credentials do not depend on it for either existence or credibility. A simple google search finds me, and you can get direct info without "consensus."

So let them lovingly maintain the article about the guy who was fucked to death by a horse.† Because if that's the cost of notability, I'm happy not to be listed.† Call me a prude. It tells me all I need to know about their organization.

*I insisted he was the "President Designate" until after the (as of then not yet held) Electoral College vote. This was a term Reagan used.† I was shouted down that there would be no question of the EC vote, it was a done deal. Eight years later, the same fat, weeping failures even tried bribing the EC to keep Trump out.† So much for moral consistency. But then..."liberals."

ADDENDUM: Apparently it's back again. My attorney will be having words with someone.

And in the "discussion," everyone who supports the article is a "Sock puppet," only people who are uninvolved should discuss a page....huh?

Fan-voted awards are not credible, but the Hugo is credible, even though it's fan-voted.

My Hugo nomination was "fake."

ISBNs aren't credible sources, Amazon isn't, IMDB isn't, the publisher's site isn't, my site isn't, Publisher's Weekly isn't, Stars and Stripes isn't, Locus Magazine is too "niche," my site can't be used as a source of info about me, only third party sites, who aren't credible because they're fan sites...

You see where this is going. These are the same fat, festering fascists who spent last year trying to get "conservatives" banned from conventions with false allegations of rape and violence.

UPDATE: they are going after Tom Kratman's page, too. Purely by coincidence. No politics involved. Riiigght.

UPDATE: And now Sarah Hoyt's page. Entirely predictable that the racists would then start on the women of color who don't cling to their leftist bigotry.

https://www.vnews.com/Grafton-Man-Accused-in-Shooting-Arraigned-25219982

Note he's been charged with two counts of assault, but denied bail. There is no universe in which this is reasonable. Even most murderers get bail.† So that has to be fixed first. It also really makes one question the judge.

Now, I've known Joe for over 20 years, and dated Denise before they married. He's a degreed engineer. He's a very stable, very thoughtful guy, and not someone who'd succumb to road rage, ever. His online commentary is always about caution, fully cognizant of the law.† If he shot, it's because he felt life was in danger.

Let's look at the article, and consider how it might have played out vs what we're told.

If the other guy was driving slow, it's not unreasonable to hold close but not tailgating, waiting for a chance to pass. I've had encounters where, when you try to pass, the other party then nails the gas to cut you off, just to be that kind of asshole. This is far more likely to me than him passing someone and slamming on the brakes to wreck them.

Furthermore, the default assumption in ANY rear end collision is that the rearmost party is at fault.

So let's interpret this as the other guy being the road rager. Especially as they admit he punched Joe first.

Joe's a little guy, about a head shorter than me.† If some big guy creates a wreck, gets out of the car and instead of swapping info and calling the cops, starts getting pushy, and Joe has his three minor children in the back (he did), it very well might meet the standard of "fear for my life or that of my children."

I'm willing to bet money on that.

Now, let me dispose of a rumor that some assholes in the area have been spreading.† "Joe shot the guy for banging his wife."

First, he is a widower and his wife has been dead for 6 years. Try not to be that kind of asshole.

Second, he probably has a girlfriend or two at present.† He usually does.† He and Denise were openly poly, and there'd be no issue whatsoever about discussing it and having other partners.

Third, they're strangers who met on a random highway.† Trying to chase someone down with your kids in the car is so far outside the realm of rational we're not going to consider it.

So with that information, please donate what you can to help him first get released on some reasonable level of bond, and then prove his innocence, which no one should be forced to do in an innocent until proven guilty society.

You can donate here.†https://www.gofundme.com/joseph-brown-charged-for-act-of-self-defense

The established law started with "No new 'hi capacity'* magazines."† In 1994ish.† I may not have the date exact. Doesn't matter.† I'm lazy, look it up if you care.

(*Standard capacity for the weapon redefined as "high capacity" by a bunch of legislative faggots with no technical knowledge and no other credentials. About like claiming any gas tank over 5 gallons is "High capacity.")

Then it was "No repair parts" and "no spare parts."† Because that was a loophole* you could drive a semi through, and people did. Some companies marked production dates on their mags for this and other reasons, which helped ID the "Bad" ones.† Some weren't produced until after that deadline.

(*A "loophole" means "we're ignorant shitheads who didn't actually say what we mean, and for some reason, people and the courts are going by what we said." Sort of like that crazy chick who expects you to understand what "it's fine" means.)

Then it was, "Turn them in to be destroyed."

And an injunction.

And a court ruling, rescinding all of it. The entire fucking law.

Which means, even if it was only in effect for 90 seconds, and so far it's at least 90 hours, ANY MAGAZINE made between 1994 and the present can legally be brought into CA, whether or not it's marked any particular way.† And even if they get an injunction against the injunction, followed by winning a case against the case they just lost, all those magazines will remain grandfathered legal in CA.

And because there is no way to distinguish those magazines from any other identical magazines, anything found in CA with that production date range must be assumed to have been legally acquired in this window.† If residents bring in 10 million more magazines made between 1993 and X, and don't get caught, once in CA, the burden of proof will be on the state to prove they were imported after X. Which hasn't happened yet and may not.

So even if X happens and Commiefornia manages to ban them again, using different language, the billions of mags in the state will remain legal, and CA will have to start from scratch down the road of fascist cocksuckery.

And they even admit so here:†http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/2019-04-01-Defendants-Ex-Parte-to-Stay-Judgment-Pending-Appeal.pdf?fbclid=IwAR01_1K_OqyVrZhiHGCh3fzKnDwqydLg1g1UfcAXIEwHV9ddwa7_JLnNFRY

Watching hoplophobic faggots squirm in agony is almost as delightful as watching fetus fetishists be told for the 48,972nd time that Roe v Wade is established.

A couple of weeks back, I clicked on a "featured" photo or such on Photobucket front page.

Immediately, popups exploded and insisted my system was infected, vitally important I call their toll free number, etc.

I closed fast, and luckily, my malware protection worked.††

But this was a photo they were PROMOTING.† Linked to malware.

I had another issue the week after that (which follows).† I tried to click on the FAQ button for help, and THAT triggered popups and another loud voiceover if, "We have detected your system may be infected with malware, viruses or porn. It is vitally important you not close this window, and contact our toll free" etc.† With an attempt to download, which I refused.

This time my malware protection quarantined the file.

I contacted support and informed them of this.† They asked if I had a screenshot. No, duh. However, I reported that I had the quarantined file, gave them all system details, etc.†

No response. Apparently they don't give a shit that their site is hosting threatware, possible ransomware, and other stuff. Or maybe they get a kick back? How does their FAQ button trigger malware unless their entire site is corrupted?

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And why was I contacting them?

Because I got autobilled in December, and billed again in March, and I wanted to complain about it.

The December charge was $29.99.† March was $59.99.† They refunded $29.99 and told me they cancelled that plan.

I asked why that one and not March, and where had March come from?† And that I'd apparently been billed for both the year before as well.† The December bill had been in effect since 2015.† The March one started in 2018.† They asked for documentation, I sent it.

I vaguely recall I may have been told the Dec plan was going away and the new minimum was $59.99, which is why I'd been pulling images anyway, planning to shut it down and go elsewhere--I can host on my own now, cheaper.

I was using about 174 meg of a 60 gig plan. Barely enough to even show on the bar.

But, if the $29.99 annual Dec billed plan was going away, why was I still getting billed for it as well as the new one?

I inquired, they quoted the previous correspondence. They don't intend to reimburse me for anything else.

Now I'm not a lawyer, and not versed in the finer points of fraud law, but this certainly looks like it to me.

Add in that they seem to endorse ransomware on their site.

And then there's the 57,435 ads that pop up when you try to access it from a phone.

My advice?† Don't give them a cent, don't click on their site. There's no benefit, and every reason not to.

EDIT:† Oh, yeah--I contacted their "Delete my plan so I can delete my account" email twice in a week and never got a response.† I can't delete the account until I beg them to cancel the plan, which they have not done.† Almost as if they intend to keep charging me every year for service I'm not using.

The man wasn't American, he was a Saud.

He was killed by Sauds or Turks.

He supported OBL and eulogized the man.

He supported ISIS.

He supported the Muslim Brotherhood.

He was a massive anti-Semite and anti-Israel.

And I'm honestly surprised to find liberals aren't aware of the facts above, since they're inherently better educated and more rational than conservatives.† At least, according to liberals.

But it's not really a surprise that the terrorist arm of the DNC, which is all of it, is lined up to suck his rigor mortis cock.

Meanwhile, no memory of our ambassador being raped and murdered with the ridiculous claim that a massive, multi-national uprising spontaneously took place over a shitty youtube video...which claim doesn't credit Muslims with much intellect or self control.

The Demorrhoids were elitist white supremacists when they started the US Civil War to keep their slaves, and they're elitist white supremacists now, with anti-Islamic and anti-Semitic traits to boot.

Some asshole is claiming that the GOP is "begging for something to wipe this off the front page," when the fact is that Demorrhoid NPCs are the only reason it's on the front page, hoping against hope it will make a point difference at the polls in three weeks.