A total of 42 guns were found in the suspected Las Vegas shooter's hotel room and house, police said Monday night.

So what?  Only the ones that were used are relevant. Stop trying to create a witch hunt against collectors.

Las Vegas Police Department Assistant Sheriff Todd R. Fasulo said that 23 guns were found in the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino room where suspected shooter Stephen Paddock fired into a crowd, and 19 were discovered out of his Mesquite, Nevada home.

Multiple loaded high-capacity magazines were found in the hotel room, law enforcement sources said earlier on Monday.

Worthless statement, depending on what you mean by "multiple" (more than one) and "high capacity" (the standard capacity for many rifles is 30, but pussies like to claim anything over 20, or 15, or 10, or 7 is "High").

Among the guns and ammunition police found the in the room being used by Paddock were some high-powered rifles considered capable of penetrating police armor.

Sooo...they were rifles. Because pretty much any rifle will penetrate police armor.

There were also some handguns in the room.

At that range, they'd have been worthless, and there's no indication that they were used. Not relevant.

The additional ammunition indicates that the shooting, which left 59 people dead and injured over 500, could have been worse, had police not intervened when they did.

Most of the casualties were from trampling. Stop making the guy look like he's some sort of score to beat, as you've done with every fucking shooting ever.

Police believe that Paddock took his own life.

Pity the sick fuck didn't start there.

A modified bump stock rifle was also found, which allows a gun to simulate rapid automatic gunfire. Law enforcement officials are still in the process of examining firearms to determine if they were capable of firing automatically.

Finally! An actual relevant fact I can use.

One official said Paddock had a camera mounted in the room, apparently to record himself.

In a separate location searched by authorities, tannerite, an explosive used in target practice, was found, sources said.

What "location"? It couldn't have done anything on site, and isn't powerful enough to matter in quantities less than crate sized.

Earlier, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said there were at least 10 rifles in the room but noted that the investigation was still underway.

Nevada's gun laws like 'the wild, wild West': Law enforcement expert

I'm not sure who this "expert" is but he's full of shit.  Most towns in the "wild" west prohibited carrying of guns.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives released a statement announcing that it is "currently conducting an urgent trace on firearms recovered from the scene in Las Vegas."

The shooting is the deadliest in modern U.S. history.

Ah, so the government's extermination of people at Waco isn't a thing anymore?  and again, why are you establishing a goal for the next guy?  Oh, right--those sweet, sweet ad dollars pumping up your erections right now.

Someone just proved that yet another "smart" gun is crap:


Look, let's go over this again:

When I need a gun, a half second to unlock it is three seconds too long.

I've watched a clerk take 15 tries to authenticate a fingerprint on a cash register, inside in dry conditions. Emergencies are less forgiving.

For liability reasons, the mfr wants this to fail into "lock" mode. For my safety, I want it to fail into "fire" mode. Because I know when I need a gun, the mfr does not.

If there is a lock on the very simple mechanism, it can be removed mechanically.

And this has zero effect on over a third of a billion weapons currently in existence.

The entire concept is crap, and if believe otherwise, you don't know enough about the subject. Do not argue. You're just wrong.


Here's an example with another piece of equipment: A fire alarm pull box.

You know, the kind where you yank a lever to activate a fire alarm.  This type had a small glass bar with a score mark to hold the lever in place.

At the training base I supported, some recruit managed to "Accidentally" pull the alarm. He was identified by the UV dye from the lever on his fingers.  It was an "accident," he insisted.

The pull station was replaced with another one with a striker you hit to break the glass, then you'd pull the lever.

A few weeks later, another recruit "accidentally" broke the glass. He didn't pull the box, so no one knows who it was.

You see where this is going.

By the time a few months had passed, every pull station in that barracks required you to:

Pull off a plastic cover that sounded an audible alarm at the box.

Open a wire mesh door that sounded a different tone and flashed a light.

Break the glass.

Pull the lever.

To actually send a call to the fire department.

To avoid "accidents."

Training and discipline avoid accidents.  Gadgets do not.

If you can't comprehend this, you have no business expressing an opinion in a technical field you're not trained in.

A cape gun is a combination gun with one smooth and one rifle barrel side by side.  IIRC, they're named after the Cape of Africa, where they're popular for simplifying carry--one gun, two purposes. They're also found in Europe more than the US.

This example is German, from about 1800.  It was some family's beloved hunting arm for close to a century, judging from the wear.

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Probably in the 1970s, some jackass JB Welded a veneer over the cheek rest, but didn't prevent worm infestation.  I removed it.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee Drop a glock in a camp fire, let it burn and try to fire it the next day
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee I bet the 1911 would fire.
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson Vern Lougee I bet the 1911 won't. Apparently you've never done any blacksmithing.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee Or run over it with an M1 Abrams
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson And I guess my question is, why are you leaving your gun in a campfire?
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson An Abrams will smash any gun flat, or into the surface underneath, or both. Don't be ridiculous.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee Let's see, you need a gun and take one from a burned out tank.
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson Vern Lougee Right. Well, when the game is over and you're back in the real world, we'll talk.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee I know an AK will fire under those conditions
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee My 1911 is solid steel. Tracks of a tank would simply smoosh it into the dirt. Wipe it off and it will fire. If it were torched in a fire, a minimal amount of cleaning and it would fire.
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Brian Corbino
Brian Corbino Just.... No.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee as long as the spring components were not destroyed it would. The thermoplastics of a glock would be destroyed much faster
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Brian Corbino
Brian Corbino I've watched the frames for a 1911 be born. They only drop 5 ton on a red hot bar to get one. Driving a 20+ ton tank over it is going to snap it like a twig.
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson Vern Lougee Are you 16? Because if you're not, you deserve all kinds of scorn for your compelete ignorance.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee 20 tons spread out over the track width and length. pounds per square inch
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson A decently hot campfire will distort a 1911, and will destroy the temper on everything, especially the springs. It will not fire again, ever.
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Vern Lougee
Vern Lougee I will concede the fire
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Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson I'm going to immortalize this conversation for posterity.
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